What if burnout has less to do with long hours and more to do with misalignment?
In this episode of We Built This Brand, Chris sits down with Naomi Asher, founder of The Maven Consulting, leadership consultant, speaker, and author, to unpack the real causes of burnout and why so many organizations are missing the warning signs. Naomi shares her journey from nonprofit executive to entrepreneur, explains how values alignment, conflict, and leadership development impact organizational health, and discusses how tools like the Enneagram can strengthen communication and build healthier teams. Plus, she shares the story behind her company, her book Take to the Bed and Bring Cake, and the lessons she learned while building a business rooted in purpose.
Show Highlights: (00:14) Meet Naomi Asher(01:27) Nonprofit Roots to Consulting(02:09) Why a PhD(04:04) Burnout Breakthrough Story(05:21) Three Burnout Drivers(09:52) Stereotypes and Risky Behavior(11:32) Training Boards and Controls(15:49) Building Maven Consulting(19:47) Enneagram Not a Weapon(21:41) Leadership Tensions Reframed(23:42) Consulting Tools for Nonprofits(25:09) Conflict Story and Lessons(26:18) Naming and Launching Maven(31:21) Books Branding and Wrap Up
Links: The Maven Consulting: https://naomithemaven.com ( https://naomithemaven.com/ )
We Built This Brand
Episode 71
August 13, 2026
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